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[Advert from the Savoy Theatre] “When Knights Were Bold” was written by Harriett Jay (using the pseudonym Charles Marlowe) and received its London premiere at Wyndham’s Theatre on 29th. January 1907, where it ran for 579 performances. The Templeman Library site has the original cast list as published in the theatre magazine, Play Pictorial. It also played in New York at the Garrick Theatre from August 20th to November 1907, starring Francis Wilson (opening night credits at the The Internet Broadway Database). And, according to the poster below from the State Library of Tasmania, it also formed part of Frank Thornton’s farewell tour of Australia, playing at the Theatre Royal, Hobart, Tasmania on Tuesday 16th June, 1908. It was Harriett Jay’s greatest success and would seem to be the main source of her income in her later years. It is the only work which is mentioned by name in her will (a codicil of 1929 specifies that all the rights to “When Knights Were Bold” were left to her nephew, William Paul Jay) and the play continued to be performed long after her death. It was filmed three times and a musical version was staged in 1943. |
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Contents: 1. Reviews 2. The Musical 3. The Films 4. Miscellanea _____
The Guardian (20 November, 1906 - p.7) PRINCE’S THEATRE MR. JAMES WELCH IN A NEW FARCE. It is said that Mr. Welch is one of the comedians with an ambition to melt or to harrow us, but if it be so he does not make much headway against his destiny. And really those who saw him again last night will hardly be disposed to spare him for the serious drama. Nor can he, as some misjudged authors do, come out anonymously, for his personality is too distinguished for disguise. There is distinction in his acting of these wild farces, one of the wildest of which is Mr. Charles Marlowe’s “When Knights were Bold.” Perhaps the critic, who, after all, is supposed to maintain a sense of responsibility, is at some comparative disadvantage with this type of play, but we did not reason with our enjoyment last evening. Mr. Welch is always good, but from time to time he gets us under complete control, and the most frigid of us relaxes into the joy of laughter. He does it all very easily—too easily, perhaps, for, as the sportsman would say, he is never really extended except in a physical or vocal sense. Sometimes the members of his company laugh at him in the wrong places, but we may believe that he will forgive them. A. N. M. ___
The Times (30 January, 1907 - p.6) WYNDHAM’S THEATRE. “WHEN KNIGHTS WERE BOLD.” |
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[Mr. James Welch as Sir Guy de Vere from When Knights Were Bold.]
The Times (19 November, 1917 - p.11) “WHEN KNIGHTS WERE BOLD.” SUCCESSFUL REVIVAL AT THE BY CHARLES MARLOWE. |
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It might perhaps have been thought that When Knights were Bold would hardly have survived Mr. James Welch, so dependent did it seem to be upon his peculiar personality and impish fun. But it is as true on the stage as elsewhere that il n’y a pas d’homme nécessaire, and Mr. Bromley Challenor, though he is not Mr. Welch, has a personality and a fun of his own, enough at any rate to keep the farce moving and the audience laughing. Indeed, the audience on Saturday was so obliging as to laugh loudly not only at the old jokes but at the rough-and-tumble tomfoolery—a circumstance which, however it might puzzle the philosophers from Hobbes to Bergson who have analysed laughter, undoubtedly justified the revival of the farce. ___
The Times (29 June, 1920 - p.14) SUMMER PLAYS IN BERLIN. REIGN OF FARCE. ..... Yet mediocre as is much of the summer fare provided, the opening of the season in Berlin has been greeted with remarkable enthusiasm in many theatres, and numerous triumphs have been scored. They are chiefly the individual triumphs of a few footlight favourites, and it says much for their art and their temperament that they have succeeded in winning over a hypercritical public frequently in spite of the poor standard of play in which they have been employed. Much of the acting is undoubtedly first-rate, and one can see these popular mirth-provokers in a great variety of German and foreign pieces, among which an ever-increasing number of English comedies are being revived. THE ENGLISH VOGUE. For the time has returned when your Berliner, discreetly forgetting that he ever uttered a “Gott strafe England,” washes again with English soap, cultivates an English vocabulary, and laughs again over Arms and the Man, Charley’s Aunt, and The Importance of Being Earnest. German critics never tire of gibing at the type of stage wit they consider specifically English—the humour still mainly connected with the Briton who boxes, chews an enormous pipe, mouths his words, drinks whisky-soda, and makes wagers about everything. But critics are inhuman beings the world over; and the Briton arriving in the German capital to-day may derive a degree of consolation from finding English comedies attracting big and appreciative audiences in half a dozen different playhouses nightly. ___
The Times (11 December, 1920 - p.8) “WHEN KNIGHTS WERE BOLD.” Revivals of farcical comedies, with thousands and thousands of past performances as their guarantee to amuse, are becoming a popular feature of the Christmas entertainment season. When Knights Were Bold, presented at the Duke of York’s Theatre last night, is not of the oldest vintage, but it has a lengthening record of success, and with a bad cold and the “good old days” as leading themes it seems peculiarly suited to appeal to audiences at this time of the year. Mr. Bromley Challenor is again the Sir Guy de Vere of the play, and is excellent all through. The character rather lends itself to “gagging,” and Mr. Challenor falls before temptation, but without spoiling his effects. Mr. Sydney Paxton and Miss Madge Compton are prominent for good work among the other members of the company. ___
The Times (20 December, 1921 - p.8) “WHEN KNIGHTS WERE BOLD.” REVIVAL AT THE KINGSWAY. So many modern audiences have seen this play and made their comments upon it that the Lady Rowena, charming though she is, can no longer be allowed a monopoly in romance and miracle. He must face an Elizabethan audience; she—with a blessing upon the change in manners that changed the sex of her impersonator—must win the ear that attended Wycherley and look out an instant across the blur of periwigs that bobbed to the wit of Sheridan. Allow to these ghostly audiences that knowledge of topical allusions which we ourselves possess; preserve in them no strangeness but the strangeness of their own critical spirit. What then would they have said of this play that fills a theatre year by year, of Mr. Bromley Challenor’s untiring energy, of the Jester, the jousting, and the Jew? Would they have sat stolid and amazed? Would they have laughed? Would they have early departed? ___
The Times (19 December, 1923 - p.8) “WHEN KNIGHTS WERE BOLD.” REVIVAL AT THE CRITERION. When Knights Were Bold seems by now to have become the hardiest of all our “hardy annuals” at Christmas time, and this year Charles Marlowe’s farcical frolic is again as full of life as ever, in spite of its advanced theatrical age. When Mr. James Welch died it was promptly assumed that When Knights Were Bold would die with him, but at once Mr. Bromley Challenor came along, showed that he could worthily wear the preposterous armour that Mr. Welch had discarded, and made a new success of what had seemed to be a played-out part. ___
The Tech (Massachusetts Institute of Technology newspaper Vol. 44, No. 30: 29 May, 1924 - p.4) DELIGHTFUL COMEDY AT Mr. E. E. Clive, playing the part of “Sir Guy De Vere,” the happy and care-free heir to the De Vere estates, is the factor in making the presentation of the charming little farce “When Knights Were Bold” at the Copley Theater this week, one of the most delightful comedies seen in Boston stock productions for quite a while. The play is in three acts and is written by Charles Marlowe. ___
The Times (23 December, 1926 - p.8) NEW SCALA THEATRE. “WHEN KNIGHTS WERE BOLD.” Much play is made during this farce with a jest that Noah is supposed to have uttered during his cruise. One suspects that the general type of humour shown in the piece was already a precious memory to him when he embarked. But broad and venerable fun is not unpardonable at pantomime time; anyhow, the hearty audience at Mr. Bromley Challenor’s latest revival of Sir Guy de Vere’s burlesque adventures in the Middle Age had no complaint to proffer. We would only suggest that it seems hardly needful to underline the author’s points quite so loudly and industriously. For those who instinctively shiver a little when the institutions of chivalry and the shade of Sir Walter are thus handled, the only consolation is that (in England) such mockery usually disguises reverence. ___
The Times (24 December, 1929 - p.10) THE PLAYHOUSE. “WHEN KNIGHTS WERE BOLD” |
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When Knights Were Bold is simple to the point of crudity. It is based on the assumption that a confession of folly is as good as a proof of wisdom and certainly better then any pretence of cleverness. So invincible is such modesty that even when the hero is, in a dream, transported to the 12th century, he is as successful as if he had been the greatest of champions instead of an amiable imbecile of modern times. But in this revival of the play for the Christmas season its weaknesses are scarcely relevant. For the hero confesses his folly and so prepares the way for Mr. Bromley Challenor, who confesses even more clamorously and persistently, and with unflagging vivacity, that his jokes are perfectly foolish. ___
The Times (10 December, 1931 - p.12) The hardy Christmas annual, When Knights were Bold, with Mr. Bromley Challenor in his old part of Sir Guy de Vere, will be revived this year at the Duke of York’s Theatre, where it will be presented for matinées only, beginning on Monday, December 21. Mr. Challenor first played Sir Guy de Vere in 1915, and has appeared in the part over 5,000 times. ___
The Times (27 December, 1932 - p.6) FORTUNE THEATRE “WHEN KNIGHTS WERE BOLD” One good reason, among a multitude, for the revival of When Knights Were Bold each Christmas may be found in Sir Guy de Vere’s celebrated cold in the head. To those who have been suffering similarly or feel themselves about to suffer (and these two categories together compose a good majority of any winter audience) there is comfort in Mr. Bromley Challenor’s power between sneezes to wave his handkerchief into a rabbit, and magic in the manner of his falling asleep with his mustard bath untouched, only to awake an hour later without a snuffle. ___
The Times (23 December, 1933 - p.8) FORTUNE THEATRE “WHEN KNIGHTS WERE BOLD” It is obvious that the small number of really successful farces must have some quality, though it is not always easy to discover, which distinguishes them from those which last a far shorter time. To judge by this example it is the presence of an idea sufficiently robust, and sufficiently clearly presented, to stand any amount of wear and tear. For the dialogue is nothing and in this performance was readily used as a framework for gags and topical interpolations. ___
The Times (27 December, 1934 - p.6) FORTUNE THEATRE “WHEN KNIGHTS WERE BOLD” There are, we are told, only two—or is it three?—stories in the world—all the rest are merely variations of them. The Cinderella story is one, and surely the story of the man who finds himself in the wrong period of time is the other. The opportunities either for profundity or for fun are inexhaustible, and, if Mr. H. G. Wells and Henry James, to take two modern names at random, have done their bit for profundity, Mr. Charles Marlowe strikes year after year a shrewd blow for fun. ___
The Times (27 December, 1935 - p.5) FORTUNE THEATRE “WHEN KNIGHTS WERE BOLD” |
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Certainly the moral of When Knights Were Bold would be badly missed by anyone who should draw invidious comparisons with the “good old days” of the play. James Welch and Bromley Challenor—multis ille bonis flebilis—had each his own conception of the part of Sir Guy de Vere, and even of the text of his lines. Mr. Jackson Hartley, valiantly buckling on their armour at short notice, has every right to wear it with a difference. This Sir Guy frankly tumbles through the part in the music-hall manner, or at least in that variant of it which is annually furbished up for pantomime. His colleagues automatically fall into the normal groupings of back-chat comedy, and collaborate in a rollicking, boisterous display which wins continuous laughter from that section of the audience whose recent studies predispose them to enjoy the roughest possible handling of the history book. The knockout blow on Sir Bryan’s helmet is delivered with no less crushing effect than of yore; and Sir Guy’s return to the twentieth century achieves new effects of riotous fun. ___
The Times (28 December, 1936 - p.15) FORTUNE THEATRE “WHEN KNIGHTS WERE BOLD” |
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“Acts One and Three, Present Day.” But there the programme is wrong. It is true there are the modern evening dresses and a few near-topical jokes, but this is otherwise a period piece in all three acts; and when in the intervals the orchestra jumps forward into jazz it merely underlies the gap between “Present Day” and the opening years of our century, when the play was written. And, since no fashions seem quite so stale as those of the day before yesterday, so “Act Two, Anno Domini 1196,” which is the meat in the sandwich, comes fresher to the palate today than the rest of it. The players themselves are most at home on the battlements of Beechwood Towers in the twelfth century. The white nuns’ robes of the Lady Rowena and her handmaidens set off their good looks to perfection. The male members of the cast are palpably more real, more characteristically themselves, in medieval garb than in the tails or dinner jackets that belong to the present. So with the acting. If the company are adequate in modern dress they are more than adequate in the trappings of chivalry. “Dressing up” is clearly half the battle in playing the fool. ___
The Times (28 December, 1937 - p.7) FORTUNE THEATRE “WHEN KNIGHTS WERE BOLD” |
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It is scarcely possible to understand what will make one or two, among innumerable farces survive for so many years. No doubt after a while they can live by their momentum alone, but even so it is a great mystery. As time goes on they have almost everything against them; the tempo of humour alters and quickens, a social milieu that once seemed exhilarating grows frowzy and down-at-heel, and no topical allusions—there are a good many in this production—can alter the unimaginable touch of time. But here it is at least possible to perceive some content in the farce which may have a permanent interest; there is a certain genuine criticism of life, crude enough, but quite sensible and not ungenerous, in this contrast between the present and the past. And the very simplicity of its statement at any rate ensures that the point of the play will not be missed. Moreover, the bathos of modern manners introduced among the grandeurs—here it is explicitly stated that every one in the thirteenth century spoke in blank verse—is a mysteriously lasting joke. |
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The Times (2 July, 1943 - p.6) PICCADILLY THEATRE “THE KNIGHT WAS BOLD” It would be wise not to bring to this musical version of When Knights Were Bold any hopes of knowing again the old helpless laughter of years ago. Decked out with a dozen dancers, the daughters of the Dean, and more than a dozen songs, of which “Whoopsy Diddly Dum de Dee” is incomparably the best, the fable is no longer capable of creating the cumulative fun of first-rate farce. But it makes a pleasant musical comedy. _____
[The musical version of When Knights Were Bold was not a success. According to the page on Harry Parr Davies on the Robert Farnon Society website: “In 1943 although The Knight was Bold had Sonnie Hale as the titled aristocrat dreaming he was back in the Middle Ages, after successfully touring the provinces under the title Kiss the Girls, it became a West End flop and left the Piccadilly Theatre after only 10 performances.” As well as writing several considerably more successful musicals, Harry Parr Davies also wrote songs for Gracie Fields (including “Sing As We Go” and “Wish Me Luck as you wave me goodbye”) and George Formby - so the man has a lot to answer for. Further information about Harry Parr Davies is available on the New Songs For Old site, which has the following about The Knight Was Bold: “Sonnie Hale, Adele Dixon and Frances L. Sullivan were the stars of this comedy musical with a plotline not far removed from the American extravaganza ‘A Yankee At The Court of King Arthur’. It was the tale of an impecunious Knight of theRealm (Sonnie Hale) who dreams he is back in the middle ages — with all the likely consequences. The songs included: ‘I Go On My Whistling Way’, ‘Where the Rainbow Ends’, ‘Whoopee Diddle de Dum de Dum’. It opened at the Piccadilly Theatre on the 1st July, 1943 with little success. 10 performances later, it closed.” Fired by a perfectly understandable desire to find out whether the best song in the show (according to the Times’ review) was called “Whoopsy Diddly Dum de Dee” or “Whoopee Diddle de Dum de Dum”, I managed to track down a programme for the show on Rob Wilton’s site (no relation...I asked). It’s “Whoopsy Diddly Dum de Dee”, by the way, and Frances (or Francis) L. Sullivan is not mentioned in the cast list. But, don’t take my word for it - the full programme is available below (including instructions for what to do in case of an air raid. The Knight Was Bold - Programme Finally, I came across the following review of another musical version of the play from 1954: The Guardian (23 December, 1954 - p.3) “WHEN KNIGHTS WERE BOLD”—TO MUSIC Manchester Playhouse Having already given us, in the recent season, a menu of good plays unusually well acted, the Salisbury Arts Theatre company at the Playhouse have given way to the heavy compulsion of the Christmas spirit with that hugely facetious old thing “When Knights Were Bold” by Charles Marlowe. It was first produced in 1906 and it combines those twin delights of that artistically sterile period, evening dress and medieval costume (Avaunt there, Sir Guy!)—into a mixture which has the sort of flavour of fizzy lemonade, certainly no stronger vintage. The company, with their usual versatility, manage the music and lyrics which they have added to it very well; they give it a choral harmony and a certain charm. They cannot do very much with the old-fashioned farce which includes too many weak-kneed verbal puns and rather a surfeit of comic business. Given a larger and more responsive audience than last night, they might warm it into life. But it is a good case in point for anyone who wants to question this Christmas convention. It is rather over the heads of the children, and a little too fizzy for those grown-ups who prefer the Playhouse’s higher quality theatre. R. P. ] |
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[Advert for The Knight Was Bold from The Times (5 July, 1943 - p.8)] _____
When Knights Were Bold was filmed three times during the silent era and once as a ‘talkie’. The following information is taken from IMDB and the British Film Institute:
WHEN KNIGHTS WERE BOLD (1916 - UK)
IL CAVALIERE DEL SILENZIO (1916 - Italy) WHEN KNIGHTS WERE BOLD (1929 - UK) Neither the IMDB or the BFI database have a writer’s credit for the 1929 silent version, but judging by the cast list, this has to be a second version of the ‘Charles Marlowe’ play. The British and Dominions Film Corporation was set up by Herbert Wilcox in 1928 (the IMDB credits him as Producer) and it was Wilcox who went on to produce the 1936 musical version.
WHEN KNIGHTS WERE BOLD (1936 - UK) |
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Review from The Times (24 February, 1936 - p.10) LONDON PAVILION ___ Rod Crawford gives the following plot summary on IMDB: And the fantasy element gets it a review by Dave Sindelar on the Scifilm site: Finally, in Fay Wray’s autobiography, “On The Other Hand”, the film is mentioned in the following passage: “ A second film with Jack Buchanan was produced by Herbert Wilcox, who arranged the very best contract I ever had. It was totally uncomplicated, not a ‘whereas’ or ‘in the event’ or any kind of legal phrasing. All on one page, it stipulated salary and billing only. Jack, of course, was to have billing over me. When the film, When Knights Were Bold, was finished and was about to be shown in Piccadilly Circus, Vincent Sheehan had come to town. He and John and I were en route to dinner at Boulestin’s in the Strand. I saw workmen putting up lights on the huge marquee of the theater, my name on top of everything. I knew that was wrong but I enjoyed my dinner thoroughly. I had never had a French red wine before: Nuit Saint George. A lovely nuit for me! By the time we passed the theater on our return taxi ride, my lovely nuit was over. Jack Buchanan’s name was up there where mine had been. I wondered if he, too, might have been dining in the Strand that night!” |
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[1936 Swedish poster for “Bland Balde Riddersman” _____
[Three obituaries and a court case]
The Times (12 April, 1917 - p.9) MR. JAMES WELCH. The death has occurred of Mr. James Welch, the actor, who achieved such a great success in When Knights were Bold. He had been ill for some weeks and had not been able to appear on the stage for some time past. ___
The Times (18 December, 1935 - p.10) DEATH OF MR. BROMLEY CHALLENOR SIR GUY DE VERE, OF “WHEN KNIGHTS WERE BOLD” Mr. Bromley Challenor, the actor, died at the Fortune Theatre, yesterday, at the age of 51, while rehearsing in When Knights Were Bold, the play which made him famous. He stepped from the stage after the first act and collapsed. ___
[Although James Welch and Bromley Challenor were the two actors most identified with the role of Sir Guy de Vere, the rave review for Max Pallenberg in the Berlin production of When Knights Were Bold (see above) sparked my curiosity.] The Times (27 June, 1934 - p.11) HERR MAX PALLENBERG COMEDIAN IN FARCE AND OPERETTA Herr Max Pallenberg, whose death in an aeroplane accident near Karlsbad is reported on another page, was an actor long famous on the German stage. _____
[As far as I can ascertain Harriett Jay only produced two works following the death of Robert Buchanan: the biography of her brother-in-law and When Knights Were Bold. There is very little information available about her financial situation during the years after Buchanan’s death. The reports of the bankruptcy proceedings of 1894 give some solid figures and mark an end to the period of Buchanan’s financial success. Although he continued to write - three books of poetry, nine novels and six plays (in collaboration with Harriett Jay) - nothing achieved any great popular success. When he became ill in the spring of 1899 he made an application to the Royal Literary Fund for a grant of £150. There was another application for the same amount made in November 1900, following the debilitating stroke which made him almost comatose for the final eight months of his life. During this period, a public fund was organised to raise money for his care. At his death in 1901, £150 remained in the fund which was given to Harriett Jay. In June 1905, Harriett Jay made an application to the Royal Literary fund on her own behalf for a grant of £100. Of course, one should not speculate too much with just a handful of facts to go on, but I do find it gratifying that rather than end her days in the shadow of Buchanan’s dwindling reputation, Harriett Jay achieved her greatest success with When Knights Were Bold on her own (or, it has to be said, with a little inspiration from Mark Twain) and ended her days with the play still being performed on a regular basis. The following court case from 1917, following the death of James Welch, gives a few more solid figures.]
The Times (21 July, 1917 - p.4) HIGH COURT OF JUSTICE. “WHEN KNIGHTS WERE BOLD”: JAY v. WELCH. The question who was entitled to the performing rights in When Knights were Bold on the death of Mr. James Welch in April last came before the Court to-day. On July 3 Miss Harriet Jay, who wrote the play some time before 1901, and who is also the author of “The Life of Robert Buchanan,” issued a writ against Mrs. Amy Hannah Welch, the widow and administratrix of the estate of her husband, Mr. James Welch, asking the Court to declare that an agreement in writing dated September 9, 1905, between the plaintiff and Mr. James Welch as to the performing rights of a play therein called Good Old Times, but now called When Knights were Bold, was an agreement personal to Mr. James Welch, and that it ceased to be operative on his death. The plaintiff also asked for an injunction restraining the widow, as administratrix, from producing or performing or licensing the performance of the play or any adaptation or translation thereof. |